hyponatremia
hyponatremia
Maximum rates of change
Acute hyponatremia no more than 4-6 mEq in 4-6 hours and daily no more than 8
Chronic hyponatremia no more than 10-12 mEq
Hypernatremia no more than 10-12
hyponatremia weight * correction / time = flow rate
90 * 4 / 24 = 15 mEq
513 mEq in 1L, 159 of regular in 1L ns
3% 313
rate 3 * 90, 90 kilograms change by 3 90 * 3 = 270 / 513 * 1000mL that's mililiters run over 24 hours.
over hours
543 mililiters = 22mL / hr
hypotonic to ctrl edema
use smaller change rate 4-6 go up by 3
take their weight multiply by 3, how much divide by 24
70 * 6 = 420 / 24 = 17.5 run at 17.5
70 * 6
3/31 Ahmad
desat listen for wheezing, nebs, steroids, suction them, spo2, abg, cxray
if chest xray clear - pulmonary embolism
sodium treatment goals - 4-6 mEq
Calculate 120 over 24 hours what his goal
124-126 how much fluid
the best way to approach to approach hyponatremia, they've already given a liter bolus of NS
Immediately repeat a BMP, go off of that number, that 1 liter will trigger the ADH pathway and they'll start pouring out urine
more hyponatremic.
get sodium start diuresing on their which is inapporpriate. Chemical clamp. Depends on the urine output.
normal urine output 50 - 100ccs an hour
if they are putting out more than 200 ccs an hour let them notify
get a BMP, get a urinalysis, want to know the specific gravity. get the serum osmos. The serum osms is more accurate than sodium
repeat labs q4hours.
low to high pons will die
high to low brain will blow
labs every four hours, sodium goes backwards. 124 to 126 option
if sodium goes backward
normal saline at liberal rate, absolute control
118 how much 3% saline
124 to 126 shooting for the lower number
6
70*6 = 420 ml
420 / 24
17.5ml/hr
labs UA q4hr, if you get a large shift you can stop it.
what if sodium goes from 118
original 120, to 130 is this hyponatremia is acute or chronic.
first thing repeat the lab.
acute can acutely correct it. within 48 hours takes too long for compartments to equilibrate. always treat as chronic if you don't know.
sodium 130
DDAVP clamp
Hyponatremia
Intracranial hemorrahge
sodium normonatremic
135 in patient, neurosurgery says sodium goal 140 - 145. this situation is the same as hyponatremia. need to achieve this goal over 24 hours
3 percent saline 135 - 145 off by 10 points. 70 kg. 700ml will increase by 10. if they want over 12 hours 70 / 12 will be 60 ccs an hour.
two compartments 135 135 lower as well.
head is 135
chest 135
legs 135
hyponatremia scenario.
120 head
120 in body
120 in legs
if you give IV fluids in the arm then you will correct chest. 4 liters of normal saline. if you make central area 140 the head is still 120
body, whatever is more salty body will want to dilute. brain will try to move from brink
shrink from the myelin sheaths from the axons. all the water is leaving this is where you get pontine myelonosis.
slow correction if this goes to 124, slowly goes to 124.
135 in head, 135 in chest now blood
give iv fluids, 145 in the body, do it quickly, brain will dilute the rest of the body. want the fluid to leave the brain, to shrink down, so the brain will have less fluid, less likely for herniation. if it is very severe, give mannitol. mannitol is nephrotoxic and is a sugar, they are going to pee, pee pee, mannitol never ever order mannitol until neurosurgery tells you to, serious drug don't order it yourself. once mannitol goes in, can't get it out. mannitol descending loop of henle.
mannitol is a pure osmotic diuretic,
we prefer 3% because it is more controlled.
brain, salty patient. hypernatermic old nursing home. don't water their vegetables. come dehydrated, sodium of 160. chronic not watering.
hypernatremic, sodium correction 8-10, 10-12 is okay. same idea, shoot for lower goal. the reason
body will give free water and brain will swell. then you will herniate. go slowly, over increments. to calcuate
hypernatremic calculate the free water deficit.
md calc free water deficit - free water
d5w, dextrose molecule to make it stable, free water flushes, unclear how much free water is absorbed 75% depending on gut motility. d5w goes into serum
don't include free water into our calculation. sodium should go to 140, problem make the brain explode. FWD 2.3 liter total.
160 to 8-10 8 is 152
free water deficit 0.8L that's how much you can go over.
d5w, with one liter, one liter D5w how much an hour.
1000 / 24 = 42 ml/hr 40 ccs an hour will get you to your goal. treat hyponatremia
hypernatremia
hypernatremia in young person no cerebral atrophy
elderly bad subdural vessels connecting to walls. brain shrink as you get older.
hyponatremia lack of fluid.
drugs hypernatremia -
iatrogenic - normal saline, abnormal saline sodium 154, switch to LR 130,
hyper and hyponatremia could use it,
iatrogenic, dehydration, medication lasix sodium goes high, overdiuresed,
bicarbonate
sodium is high and bicarbonate is high, loops are coming off the table, thirdspacing vessels, look like top things are leaking into the third space.
thiazide diuretics, hyponatremia.
contraction alkalosis, overdiuresed, third spaced, malnutrition, still want to diures, give albumin in the extracellular space, albumin suck it in, in the vascular space, gets diuresed out
bicarb if it is still give diamox.
lasix, albumin, metolazone, diamox
120 - 130, ddavp, d5water, free water deficit, hypernatremia now hypernatremia
sodium 130 , 126 600 bolus
hypernatremia and hyponatremia to treat properly.never rush
diabetes insipidus, hyponatremia peeing - ddavp,
anoxia / cerebral trauma, is you messed up pituitary
cerebral salt wasting hyponatremic - salt tabs
Diabetes insipidus - tolvaptan
place foley in
clamping the foley theoretical neurohormonal
bladder full, sends signal back to the brain, bladder is full, think it through. if bladder is full, SIADH
Bolt < ICP 15 EVD less than 20
GCS < 8 bolt, steroids
hyponatremia -
legionella, hypothyroidism, adrenal insufficiency
SIADH, DI,
each 1000 grams of diuresis give lasix.
most accurate is serum osms. sodium overcorrected
the osm - serum osm.
go by the lowest number
cannot above 125
123 not more than 127
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Let's work through a sample calculation:
Hypertonic saline derivation
Given Information:
- 3% Saline Concentration: 513 mmol/L
- Patient Weight: Let's assume 60 kg.
- Goal: Calculate how much 3% saline is needed to increase serum sodium by 1 mmol/L using the idea that 1 mL/kg roughly achieves this increase.
Step-by-Step Dimensional Analysis
Calculate Sodium Increase per mL of 3% Saline:
Calculate Total Body Water (TBW): Using the approximation (for an adult female), we have:
Determine Sodium Change per mL/kg of 3% Saline: To raise serum sodium by 1 mmol/L in 30 L of body water, we need a total of 30 mmol of sodium:
Calculate Volume of 3% Saline Needed to Deliver 30 mmol of Sodium: Since 3% saline contains 0.513 mmol of sodium per mL:
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