Takeaway points cholecystitis RUQ pain minimal elevations in labs LFTs, Bilirubin
Targets: Strep, Klebsiella, e. coli
mirizzi syndrome: gallstone in cystic duct, jaundice, dilated common hepatic duct caused by extrinsic compression
Levofloxacin started by the emergency department. Levofloxacin has more broad coverage and less resistant profile compared to ciprofloxacin
Fever, leukocytosis, elevated liver enzymes indicate acute cholecystitis / obstruction
Cholangitis right upper quadrant pain, fever, jaundice plus shock and mental status changes
U/S / CT scan there is air in the biliary tree. Where does air come from? Fistula between the bowels and bladder. Cholecystenteric fistula
Gallbladder will enlarge, will press the ducts. Press the common hepatic duct.
Because it compresses, will cause jaundice. Will give jaundice. Cholecystitisusually cholic in gallbladder will not give jaundice.
Obstruct pathway for the drainage. Make patient have jaundice.
Acute cholecystitis beta lactam / beta lactamase inhibitor cephalosporin + metronidazole
ERCP removal of CBD.
Liver enzymes doesn’t have to be high to diagnose cholecystitis. Not necessarily cholecystitis. Cholecystitis doesn’t affect the drainage of the liver secretions. Cholecystectomy when?
from the JAMA Network this is JAMA clinical reviews interviews and ideas
about Innovations in Medicine Science and clinical practice
I'm Dr KristIn Walter associate editor at JAMA and a pulmonary critical care physician I'm
joined today by Dr Anthony Charles who is chief of the division of trauma critical care and acute
care surgery director of the ECMO program and director of global surgery at the University
of North Carolina in Chapel Hill North Carolina Dr Charles is also an associate editor at JAMA
we will be discussing the article of the Dr Charles co-wrote with Dr Jared R Gallagher
entitled acute cholecystitis a review which was published in the March 8 2022 issue of Jama
thank you for joining us Dr Charles thank you very much and I'm happy to be here to start off
approximately how many people in the U.S are diagnosed with acute cholecystitis each year
approximately 200 000 people are diagnosed with acute cystitis in the United States
and the most important risk factor for acute cholecystitis is the presence of
gallstones can you discuss how many people in the U.S are estimated to have gallstones and
what percentage will go on to develop acute cholecystitis over their lifetime close to 25
million people currently have gallstones in the United States but only approximately 20
percent of those patients will actually become symptomatic of any sort of gallbladder issues
within those approximately five percent will end up having acute cholecystitis
so it sounds like there are a lot of people walking around with gallstones uh what are some
important risk factors for gallstones first of all patients with hemolytic anemias particularly
sickle cell disease and thalassemia have an increased risk of having gallstones obesity
is a known risk factor but interestingly also a rapid weight loss if you lose approximately 25
percent of your week within a year you'll have a higher chance of having gallstones
there are some medications that have been known to be associated with the formation of gallstones and
those are things like Oxford tide or hypoglycemic medications particularly the newer Newark glucagon
are like peptide analogues are like exanatide and lower anglutite so this will be the main
risk factors for causal information and what about difference in Sex and also pregnancy
so gallstones are more likely in women than in men but as you age by the time you're over 65
this differences go away and of course pregnancy is a known risk factor for gallstones the exact
ideology of why pregnancy causes gallstones is not very clear but in the prenatal period and
also in the postpartum period there's a high chance of having all students or or biliary
sludge which is this combination of mucos and cholesterol crystals within the gallbladder
and in terms of pathophysiology your article discusses how after a gallstone obstructs the
cystic duct acute cholecystitis progresses in three distinct phases can you describe
those phases for us certainly there's the acute phase in which you have
Initial
- gallbladder wall congestion + edema 2-4 days
- Hemorrhagic phase blood w/in wall leading to necrosis, can perforate necrosis and ischemia
- Omentum can get stuck to gallbladder
Acute complicated cholecystitis
- gangrene as gallbladder wall is dead and gallbladder wall perforation resulting in biliary peritonitis
- cholecystoduodenal fistula
- gallstone ileus
Acalculous cholecystitis
initials of gallbladder
wall congestion and edema and this typically lasts two to four days from the onset of symptoms this
stem can then progress into what is a what I'll call a hemorrhagic phase in which you have blood
within the wall of the gallbladder and that can potentially lead to necrosis of the wall of the
gallbladder in some patients this may perforate uh let's get the area of necrosis and ischemia
and then the third phase of course is after you are roughly around about three to five days after
the onset of symptoms you may end up going through what I call a chronic or a purulent face and this
is characterized by leukocyte infiltration passed within the gallbladder and gross infection within
the gallbladder wall typically these patients will have the the omentum stuck to the gallbladder
and they are less sick at this point in time and this the third faces occurs on day six and later
and how would you define acute complicated cholecystitis acute complicated cholecystitis is
essentially a patient that has acute cholecystitis that has resulted in either gangrene as the
gallbladder wall is dead has a gallbladder wall perforation a resulting in biliary peritonitis
or has essentially a cholecysto duodenal fistula that is the gallbladder has now attached itself
to the duodenum and stones have gone across and then they have what we call a gallstone
Alias that is the stone is now of causing a small ball of structure this will be the
as of the complicated cholecystitis in which the managements are slightly more challenging
and now I'd like to shift to a calculus acute cholecystitis how common is this condition and
what are some risk factors for a calculus corollary cystitis
so a calculator Society is typically a cause between five and ten percent of the population
the risk factors are essentially patients in the critical care setting critically ill patients
they're in the ICU for other non-biliary related reasons either following major trauma major Burns
being on a total parenteral Nutrition is a risk factor for a calculus cholecystitis this will be
the main risk factors but other things such as you know I haven't had cardiopulmonary bypass
will be a reason to have a calculus cholecystitis and just to clarify that represents about five
percent of all acute cholecystatus cases correct and what is thought to be the pathogenesis of
acute cholecystitis without a gallstone because certainly with gallstone it makes sense there's a
blockage of the duct but what is the pathogenesis of this disease certainly what typically happens
is that you have bile stasis so imagine if you will a patients in the ICU has not been fed orally
the bile on the gallbladder essentially just sits there you don't get the normal squeeze to eject
bile from the gallbladder the gallbladder distends and with this distension you're
essentially compress the blood vessels to the wall of the gallbladder and some people actually
believe that you actually have some Associated endothelial injury secondary to the inflammation
caused by the bile stasis that you started off with and that's what we think causes it
it is very hard to say but that's a presumptive uh hypothesis regarding how a calculus cholecystitis
occur more importantly these patients have other reasons to have endothelial injury they're usually
in the ICU for sepsis or for trauma or for burn and this can result in a hypoperfusion State and
that clearly would reduce the blood supply to the one of the gallbladder and hence you
may end up having a calculus quality status of the inflammation of the wall of the gallbladder
interesting in terms of the diagnosis of acute cholecystitis ultrasonography is considered the
initial Imaging modality of choice can you describe the diagnostic accuracy of
the ultrasound for acute echolicystitis and what's the typical findings are on ultrasound
so certainly so the ultrasound is actually preferred as the first modality because it is
non-invasive and it is relatively low cost and easily accessible and most nearly all
hospitals will have it and there's no ionizing radiation associated with this this sensitivity
for diagnosis or calculus Society is about each one percent and the specific disease is
about 80 in acute cholecystitis the signs of acute cholecystitis on ultrasound include pericolicistic
fluid which is essentially freed around the gallbladder the gallbladder will be distended
you'll see edema of the gallbladder wall and gallstones or sludge may be seen and that those
are the typical signs of acute cholecystitis on ultrasonography and what are some other Imaging
modalities that may be used for diagnosis of acute cholecystitis and when should they be
used certainly if a patient has signs or symptoms of vacuole societies and ultrasounds does not give
you the typical findings the alternative uh include a CT scan of the abdomen and pelvis
looking at the right of accordance a CT scan may be used uh the gallstone detection of the
CT scan is dependent on the type of gallstones that are present if they're cholesterol Stones
they may not essentially light up and also on CT scan depending on the thickness of the slices on
the CT scan you may actually miss stones on the gallbladder however CT scan may also show
your thickened gallbladder wall pericolocystic fluid fat stranding around the gallbladder the
hepatobiliary cintigraphy is actually regarded as the gold standard also known as a Hider scan
and essentially this is a test in which our radio Tracer technician label radio Tracer is injected
into the patient and the patients should have been fastened for four to six hours and effectively
if the patient has got a patent cystic duct the gallbladder will light up on the scan which means
the patient does not have acute cholecystitis if the patient has acute cholecystitis the
gallbladder will not be visualized and this is a very very sensitive and specific test for
acute cholecystitis the sensitivity is about 96 and the specificity is about 90 percent
all the tests that potentially can help you is a MRI and magnetic resonance imaging or an MRCP
MRI of gallbladder will show gallstones make sure gallbladder won't thickening gallbladder
oil distension fluid around the liver and pericolas cystic fluid and any single one of the
signs a suggestion of acute cystitis the MRI has a sensitivity of 88 and a specificity or 89 percent
the importance of the MRCP lies in the fact that if there are other concomitant issues in
the biliary system such as cholidocolithiasis that is Stones within the common bile duct you
may see this and this may help assist in planning the therapeutic approach but all in all ultrasound
is the first test that you should get and I particular scentography is the gold standard
in terms of treatment cholecystectomy is a recommended treatment for calculus acute
cholecystitis and the laparoscopic approach is the standard of care in the U.S can you discuss
the benefits of doing an early cholecystectomy within one to three days of onset of symptoms
versus later certainly in the past there was a belief that if a patient shows up with a
cused choli societies perhaps one should wait to let the inflammation cool down but there's been
several studies and randomized clinical trials that have shown that undergoing laparoscopic
cholecystectomy within 24 hours of admission is beneficial one the patient spends less time
in the hospital your complication rates are lower recoveries quicker than the Infectious
process is limited this was come when we compare early versus delayed and delayed is typically
defined as having your cholecystectomy approximately three days after admission
there's a significant advantage to having your gallbladder removed early
and what percentage of cholecystectomies that start with a laparoscopic approach
end up being converted to an open cholecystectomy approximately two to fifteen percent of patients
undergoing laparoscopic cholecystectomy will be converted to an open cholecystectomy
and are there certain risk factors that make it more likely that a cholecystectomy will need to be
converted from a laparoscopic to an open approach those in the delayed cholecystectomy group are
more likely to be converted to open being male being of older age having a high body mass index
all higher risk factors for undergoing uh conversion from laparoscopic to open but for
us in surgery one of the greatest risk factors is having a prior abdominal operation so if you
have an upper midline abdominal incision given the adhesions that may occur in the midline and also
in the right upper quadrants this increases your chances of undergoing a conversion from
laparoscopic to open cholecystectomy and then lastly having a complicated acute cholecystitis
increases your chances of conversion to open and then shifting to pregnant individuals is there
anything different about their management for acute cholecystitis that you'd like to discuss
non-gynecological surgery occurs in approximately one to two percent of pregnant patients and a lot
of the abdominal surgeries are going to get things like acute appendicitis cystectomy in
the first trimester of pregnancy you're going to treat the patients the same
some people have always felt that you should try and avoid an abdominal operation if you
can in pregnancy but when it comes to acute cholecystitis the current guidelines from the
American College of obstetrics and gynecologists and the Society of the American gastrointestinal
and endoscopic surgeons recommends laparoscopic cholecystectomy be performed
after acute cholecystitis in any trimester of pregnancy in the presence of Accu cholecystitis
and what about elderly patients with acute cholecystitis should they receive any different
treatment than standard treatment elderly patients should undergo standard treatments
I think the decision in the elderly is really cloudied by any Associated comorbidities that
they may have most people who actually would suggest that you should go ahead and remove
an elderly and women say Elder years old age over 65 some people may not think that is old
and so we'll just call them older patients age over 65. there's a survival benefits to going
ahead and removing their gallbladder as opposed to any other alternative therapeutic strategies
and another important point that was brought up in your review was the use of antibiotics in acute
cholecystitis can you discuss the recommended use of pre-operative and post-operative antibiotics
uh certainly once the diagnosis of acute our polycystitis has made a prior to your
laparoscopic cholecystectomy patients should be placed on on IV antibiotics and typically
the commonest organisms are gram negatives uh E coli capsular and those patients were placed on
combination antibiotics such as amoxicillin tasobactin and in the pre-surgery period or
the purpose of period antibiotics should be given the operating room you can also give antibiotics
before you start the case post-operatively there's no evidence that a prolonged antibiotics or any
antibiotics after the gallbladder has been removed is beneficial and certain patients for the curly
cystitis have a high perioperative risk either due to critical illness or because they have multiple
medical comorbidities can you discuss the option of percutaneous cholecystostomy tube placement
in patients with the calculus sclerosis or patients that are critically ill with Calculus
cholecystitis given their critical illness and their significant operative risks percutiness
tube has always been an option essentially that is putting the tube through the liver into the
gallbladder to decompress the gallbladder and trying to drain any sort of pure lenses on the
gallbladder has been thought to provide a survival advantage in reality patience being managed in the
presence of calculus cholecystitis being managed with purple discolor testosterone tube do worse
they have a higher mortality High infection have a higher reoperative rates eventually
that patients who you just take to the operating room and do a laparoscopy called statutory or an
open cholesterectomy so by and large with Calculus or in calculus status laparoscopy
color cystectomy possible open cholesterectomy is the way to go there's a small subset of patients
in which surgery is significantly prohibitive those patients May benefit from a percutaneous
cholesterol switch tube placement but this should be the exception rather than the rule
is there anything we haven't discussed about acute cholecystitis or its management that
you'd like to mention to our Jama audience certainly there appears to be a significant
disparities in patients presenting with acute cholecystitis in the United States
underrepresented minority patients since present later and this could be uh due to access of
the healthcare system and hence there are more likely to present with complicated cholecystitis
but by and large I think early laparoscopic cholesterectomy should be the standard of care
that was Dr Anthony Charles who is chief of the division of trauma critical care
and acute care surgery director of the ECMO program and director of global surgery at
the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill North Carolina thank you for sharing
your thoughts with us about this important topic thank you very much it was my pleasure
I'm Walter thank you for listening this episode was produced by Daniel morrow at the Jana Network
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good morning thank you to sages for the
opportunity to present such an important
topic that's near and dear to most
general surgeons heart the call for
acute cholecystitis from the ER on a
weekend has become one of the more
dreaded phone calls at least I get on a
call weekend and I would like to present
in this talk an opportunity to provide
another approach sort of a pre-op
bailout procedure and to provide
guidelines based on dr. Santos's
excellent talk to rescue us and maybe
rescue the patient from these difficult
surgeries on a weekend or evening or any
time and their associated complications
so I have no financial disclosures but
as I was preparing this talk and going
through the week listening to some of
the very negative connotations that are
statistically associated with Coley
cystoscopy tubes I realized I had one
very important disclosure for this talk
I am an academic but community surgeon
my main practice is at a 150 bed
Hospital where we do about 8,000 cases a
year in inner-city Allentown so the
perspective that I have is that I do not
have surgical residents on a routine
basis to go see the patient or evaluate
them and if it's Saturday at 2:00
o'clock my our staff maybe the
orthopaedic scrub tech who may know the
difference between a Maryland and a
grasper but not much more than that and
so I really have to take in account what
my resources are as I move forward with
proceeding to surgery on an acute
cholecystitis
so my disclosure is that my bias is that
I live on the frontlines of community
hospital work and I think that does
influence some of our decision tree and
it should so many of us look at this cat
Cat scan
scan on the right hand side here with a
little bit of dread you know if I don't
know about your er but in my ER if you
have belly pain or a few breathe you get
a cat scan so even before the ultrasound
so a living breathing patient will get a
cat scan and usually an ER resident
calls you and says I have somebody with
right upper quadrant pain and their cat
scan shows acute cholecystitis you got
to come operate and you know most of us
are trying to figure out based on that
presentation do we really need to come
in is this really an urgent case to call
the staff in for the weekend.a time the
expense
the burnout level of calling the staff
in and so we need some guidelines to
figure out what to do the slide on the
right hand side is actually more of my
worst nightmare because somebody called
in the ultrasound tech and they showed
no wall thickening and no fluid and it
should be an easy gallbladder just whip
it out at four o'clock on the Saturday
and I put my laparoscope in and
ultrasound maybe wasn't quite what they
advertised it to be as anyone had that
happen here I'm sure somebody has right
so ultrasounds are by far the most
specific and sensitive test however I at
least in my practice I've seen some of
them low me into a complacency that
doesn't necessarily come true
Culture of safety
so I feel very strongly that the culture
of safety and cholecystectomy is more
than just the critical view and this is
something that's very passionate about I
believe the culture of safety is not
just what you do in the operating room
but what you do in your surgical
judgment are there cases when you need
to learn to back away from the table or
not even go there in the first place and
avoid surgical intervention the culture
of safety is more than just knowing how
to operate but it's knowing how to be a
good surgeon and a good physician for
Consider avoidance
your patient so consider avoidance as a
appropriate technique for avoiding the
difficult cholecystectomy this is a bail
out procedure that's actually pretty
reasonable we all know these risk
factors elderly you know the ER calls
you I've got a 300-pound gentleman who's
cholecystitis for about three years he's
known he's had gall stones but he never
came in and now it's 4:30 on Saturday
afternoon and he doesn't feel like I
can't get him home because I can't
control his pain so could you just come
operate on him and take care of this for
me you know and you know maybe he's a
drink or two and has a little bit of
cirrhosis and ironically for the point
of this talk if he's had a percutaneous
Coley cystoscopy tube in the past that
even adds to his risk factors so
consider avoidance as an appropriate
bailout procedure before you even get
started so if you do get one of these
Why drain
patients and we'll talk about the
guidelines on how to get there why would
you do a brain a drainage procedure well
for me there's two ways to look at it
first of all a drainage procedure is a
bridging procedure and
is one of the well-known bridges in
Seattle and this bridging procedure is
in low-risk patients who you know
eventually I'm gonna take their
gallbladder out there if I can just get
them over the hump of this weekend maybe
I'll take it out in a week maybe I'll
take it out in six weeks and we'll we'll
talk about the literature in that and in
some patients minority perhaps but in
some patients this is a definitive
procedure if you have a 93 year-old
demented lady from the nursing home this
might be her one and only treatment for
her gall bladder disease it might not be
appropriate to proceed with further
surgery down the line so as dr. Santos
The Tokyo Guidelines
has eloquently described there are the
Tokyo guidelines I had pulled it up on
my phone since I didn't take a picture
of it and I would encourage every one of
you here to download the app I don't
mind while I'm talking go ahead and look
at your phones and download the app and
the reason being especially for those of
us who are in solo practice which I was
for many years or in an outlying
Community Hospital it gives us some very
objective criteria to help us with our
decision-making and I think especially
for the academic surgeons in the room
who have presidents and fellows that's a
really important point that I a
perspective that I would like to bring
to the table when you're alone in a
Community Hospital up in the Pocono
Mountains for example and you don't have
any help or anyone to run the cat scan
by say hey what would you do about this
or your partner maybe is in Miami for
the weekend and he's not around you it
helps to have some objective criteria to
sort of soothe your ego for lack of a
better word to say I can handle this I'm
at acute care surgeon I can rip anything
out and instead having some guidelines
will really help you determine hey maybe
a cooler wiser head would back away from
the table on this and I'm not saying you
would back away from every acute
cholecystitis but having some objective
guidelines really gives you a sense of I
don't know accomplishment or something
that you can actually have some basis
for your decision so to go in a little
more detail for the next two or three
slides for the Tokyo guidelines there
are three major factors that make up
those recommendations
the Charleston comorbidity index the
anesthesia criteria and then the Tokyo
guidelines the the grading criteria
themselves which dr. Santos went through
Charleston comorbidity index
so
those of you not familiar the Charleston
comorbidity insects index uses icd-9
codes and assigns a weight for each of
these conditions and as the number rises
the predicted mortality rate rises and
the treatment requires more healthcare
resources so you can see if they've had
an MI they get a point if they're
diabetic they may get one or two points
and if they have a malignancy or liver
disease they might get up to six points
and the the sort of cutoff that I read
in the literature somewhere about four
or five if you accumulate four or five
points you're really going to start
increasing your burn bida T and
mortality from this disease then we're
Anesthesia performance status scores
all familiar with the anesthesia
performance status scores obviously the
higher the grade the more likely they're
gonna be perioperative anesthesia or
surgical complications I think we all
know those and the Tokyo grading
severity which we just went over very
nicely combines your clinical status
your physical examination your
laboratory values and your radiographic
findings and I think that's a nice way
to to correlate your grading severity
and as dr. Santos showed in his table
there is a significant and reproducible
relationship between the 30-day
mortality and grades
excuse me and grade three severity
there's a significant almost five and a
half percent mortality and that's all
comers that's fairly significant five
and a half or six out of 100 of your
patients will die so with most of you do
at least a hundred gallbladders a year
maybe more can you imagine five of them
dying that's a pretty big number so the
correlation is is very significant and
we need to keep that in mind so let's go
Flow charts
over the flow charts a little bit in
more depth of how you might make your
decision to back away from that table
I think grade one's pretty easy we all
know this patient they're less than 72
hours they have a fairly low grade mild
acute cholecystitis if it's 2:00 in the
morning antibiotics and supportive care
certainly appropriate there's no need to
burn out your staff and bring them in
for every gallbladder anymore I know
when I trained that's what we did but
maybe that's not necessary but if it's a
Saturday morning you might not want to
wait till Monday morning to take care of
that
some people might opt for observation
but early cholecystectomy is certainly
appropriate
Evaluation
great two gets a little more sticky of
course again we can start with
antibiotics and supportive care and
remember out in the community many of us
do not have residents and in fact I
don't even have a PA many days in the
hospital so I have to haul myself in to
really make this evaluation so if I have
if I'm feeling strong that day or if I
think my partner's not out of town and I
think that they have a reasonable good
favorable factors these symbols here
refer back to the chart with the type of
factors of a comorbidity index and the a
sa class so if they have some favorable
factors maybe I might proceed with a
cholecystectomy knowing that it might be
hard knowing that I might want to have
my better team and a PA to help me that
I know that knows what's doing I'd call
my PA in and not not try to do this with
the scrub tech and myself but if they
have sort of negative risk factors if
they have acute renal injury and several
of those comorbidity indexes I may want
to consider early drainage and again if
you download this app it'll walk you
through this very nicely and tell you
you know within your clinical judgment
what you might want to consider to again
back away from the table and we'll talk
about what to do next after we finish
the talk on drainage so again for people
who have a Charleston insects index of
greater than four and an a si of greater
than three these are people who might
not even withstand surgery and there's a
fair amount of evidence in the Tokyo
guidelines to support this now grade
Grade 3 Severe
three none of us here experienced
academic institution or not really want
to operate on a grade 3 severe
cholecystitis these are people that even
with antibiotics and general organ
support they are very sick they're
septic from their cholecystitis and
there is some of us here who would say
well the best thing to do is get that
gallbladder out and that is true but it
may not be the appropriate step at this
point you have to really look at these
guidelines and consider your judgment so
if they have good factors if you're at
my Bethlehem campus maybe and you have
an advanced laparoscopic surgeon I think
that's very may be doable but I want to
pause for a second here and say consider
your own skills very carefully none of
us like to think that we don't
advanced skills none of us would like to
say oh you know maybe I'm not quite good
enough to take this gallbladder out it's
really not a matter of good enough it's
a matter of having multiple experienced
surgeons in the room together with
different eyes and different skill sets
so put your ego aside at the door you
don't have to say you're not a good
laparoscopic surgeon to decline a grade
partner available or backup available
again I was in solo practice for many
years and these these gall bladders
struck fear in my heart for sure and I
dreaded doing them so if they have a
poor performance score or they have
negative predictive factors I think the
majority of this graph goes too early
and urgent gallbladder drainage and I've
even done this in the operating room
when I've been lulled into a going to
the O R and I get that first picture of
an acute cholecystitis I've drained them
in the operating room I've called IR in
and sometimes my colleagues will come in
and I'd in some cases when I was in some
remote hospitals I put a Foley in the
top of the gallbladder and left a JP
drain next to it because I knew this was
not the appropriate thing
so there are bailout methods that will
get you out of trouble if you don't
perforate the gallbladder to start and
you could handle it very gingerly and
you kind of lift it up and say wow this
one is ugly there are ways to bailout
without ever having to cut into the
gallbladder most of us are familiar with
Drainage
transit paddock drainages this can this
used to be done by the surgeons and can
be done at bedside especially if that
cat scan shows a very distended gall
bladder near the anterior abdominal wall
and I think it's fairly straightforward
Other options
however there are other procedures that
one can do if you have cooperative GI
guys who are willing to come in at night
or in the weekend or maybe it can wait
till Monday morning on some cases there
are reasons for maybe not taking a
percutaneous approach you can do the SU
endoscopic or endo ultrasound drainage
and the patients that would be good
candidates maybe the patients on an
antiplatelet therapy one of those ones
new ones I don't know they come up with
new ones every week and I have to re
remind myself of them but there are some
that are not reversible and they just
took it that morning before they came in
because their doctor told them to take
it every day and maybe a surgery or
percutaneous approach isn't the greatest
option people who have their transverse
colon sitting on top of their liver or
they have significant ascites and
putting a percutaneous drain is not the
best option so there are ways to do this
ER CP scope
without ever making an incision so this
is the ER CP scope running a catheter
wire into the gall bladder through the
common bile duct ran systole and then a
nasal biliary tube is placed over that
wire and out through the nose and
draining them this is a very old-school
type of to of this nasal biliary - but
it actually works very well through ERCP
or even endo ultrasound guidance I
believe endo ultrasound may have to do a
sort of a trans gastric approach so if
they're a bleeder that might not be
great but if they're in a Sai T's
patient that would be a great option for
Coley cystoscopy tube
them
does the Coley cystoscopy tube always
help well this study was put out and
showed from the southern surgical
Association and it shows in grade three
patients a percutaneous drain was
actually associated with a higher
mortality readmissions and a prolonged
hospital stay so it's not a free lunch
it's not a gift that gets you off the
hook but I also question why that why
that is these are all grade three
patients their mortality is five and a
half percent all comers no matter what
you do so as we'll see a little bit
later in the talk are we self selecting
a bias against these tubes because we're
really picking the worst of the worst
patients it's like when we first started
liver transplants we only got patients
that were dying and then the the
outcomes weren't so great because they
were already so far over the curve that
we sort of selected ourselves out so now
you put a tube in what the what do you
do now you put them on some antibiotics
emia send them home in a couple days
with a tube
maybe you'll squirt the tube to see if
the cystic duct is open or maybe you
just kind of sent him home and say a
Hail Mary or two well these four studies
looked at patients who underwent early
cholecystectomy defined as less than ten
days often less than a week and in three
of the four studies you can see that
there there was a higher incidence of
post-operative complication higher
bleeding volumes in the early group so
although one study didn't really find
anything they found equivalent rates for
post-operative complications in
operative times I think the consensus at
this point is yet to be reached on
whether early cholecystectomy is
appropriate from the cost perspective
sure that's great for the administrator
but it's not net necessarily proven to
be safe or effective
and there's a reason you didn't want to
go in there - in the first place so a
week is maybe not enough time to
consider I think most of us out in the
community
wait the standard four to six to even
eight weeks I try to wait as long as I
can get them to hold the tube and
although some of our talks this week
have talked about difficulties with the
tube I think for the most part they're
very manageable if you let the patient
know that they're not the most
comfortable thing in the world but they
are manageable and has potentially saved
their life or a significant complication
Cholecystectomy
so there was a very nice study presented
by Stony Brook earlier in this
conference and with their permission I
borrowed one of their slides
dr. el tre showed us that the rate of
cholecystectomy following a percutaneous
drainage is actually increased I guess
in the older days people didn't
necessarily go on to a cholecystectomy
but now surgeons seem to be more
comfortable with it however the rate of
common bile duct injury was
significantly higher after a
percutaneous drainage to that of the
general population but again we're
looking at people who are probably grade
injury rate would be alone if they did
not have that tube so there are
recommendations where that caution
should be used when performing that
cholecystectomy was these procedures may
be more typically challenging but I
would also port forward to you that you
can prepare you can have your best team
available you can have your alternative
energy devices ready to go and you can
Percutaneous cholecystectomy
have appropriate assistance so
percutaneous collies estas to me do as I
say not as I do
it's true cholecystectomy is the only
definitive treatment for calculous
cholecystitis but in the United States
our Tokyo guidelines are not really
adhered to and this was made mention in
their studies and are we unnecessarily
putting patients at risk by forging
ahead by saying that we're a trauma
surgeon or were alone in the EO r with
the ortho team on-call trying to take
these gall bladders out on Saturday at
found in some places where I work the
nearest next surgeon is 40 minutes away
if I get into a significant vascular
injury it's me
and the scrub tech and that's not
necessarily a place we all want to be
sure we could transfer them to the big
house but that's not encouraged these
days the flipside is are we only
choosing the worst pay
to drain buying the results of the
subsequent surgeries and so our studies
look like these patients who have tube
draining are really had a higher risk
for bile duct injury that's true but
they were at a higher risk before we
started so the answer to the question to
drain are not to drain yes source
control most patients will improve with
source control we know that some will
not but almost all patients will I
encourage you to download those Tokio
guidelines especially if you're in a
private solo or community practice and
you don't have somebody clearly nearby
as a back-up plan and download them and
use them as a guide for you it gives you
some substantive information that's
based on good data reliable data that
will allow you to sort of get off the
hook if you need to and back away from
the table and not let your own personal
interest take over your judgment the
subsequent case may not be easy but you
can come in prepared you can maybe have
your partner or an advanced a minimally
invasive surgery on standby you can
transfer them to another center if it's
something you don't want to deal with in
your Community Hospital and maybe just
maybe you'll turn this diagnostic
laparoscopy into that all right thank
you very much for your attention and it
will entertain questions at the end of
the cases
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